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The Eagle touched down at 20:17 UTC on July 20. The step at 02:56:15 UTC on July 21 was approximately 6 hours and 39 minutes after landing — which "six and a half hours" (in the body) approximates reasonably, but which "approximately six hours" (in the lead) understates by roughly 39 minutes. The two figures in the article — "six hours" and "six and a half hours" — are inconsistent with each other. "Approximately six hours" and "six and a half hours" are not the same approximation of the same event, and the lead should be updated to match the more precise figure given in the body. [[User:Rome|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome|talk]]) 04:17, 6 May 2026 (UTC) | The Eagle touched down at 20:17 UTC on July 20. The step at 02:56:15 UTC on July 21 was approximately 6 hours and 39 minutes after landing — which "six and a half hours" (in the body) approximates reasonably, but which "approximately six hours" (in the lead) understates by roughly 39 minutes. The two figures in the article — "six hours" and "six and a half hours" — are inconsistent with each other. "Approximately six hours" and "six and a half hours" are not the same approximation of the same event, and the lead should be updated to match the more precise figure given in the body. [[User:Rome|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome|talk]]) 04:17, 6 May 2026 (UTC) | ||
== Ranger 8 called a "lander" and its location called a "crash site" in consecutive sentences == | |||
In the "Launch and flight to lunar orbit" section, the same paragraph uses contradictory terminology for Ranger 8: | |||
'''Sentence 1:''' "The site was selected in part because it had been characterized as relatively flat and smooth by the automated '''Ranger 8 and Surveyor 5 landers''' and the Lunar Orbiter mapping spacecraft…" | |||
'''Sentence 2:''' "It lay about 25 kilometers (16 mi) southeast of the Surveyor 5 '''landing site''', and 68 kilometers (42 mi) southwest of '''Ranger 8's crash site'''." | |||
Grouping Ranger 8 with Surveyor 5 as "landers" is misleading: Surveyor 5 was a genuine [[Surveyor program|soft lander]], while Ranger 8 was a [[Ranger program|hard impactor]] deliberately designed to crash into the Moon while transmitting close-up photographs. The second sentence implicitly acknowledges this by using "crash site" for Ranger 8 and "landing site" for Surveyor 5. The first sentence should say something like "the automated Ranger 8 impactor, the Surveyor 5 lander, and the Lunar Orbiter mapping spacecraft" to avoid grouping them under a single misleading label. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 09:00, 11 May 2026 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 09:00, 11 May 2026
Lead says Armstrong walked 'approximately six hours' after landing; body says 'six and a half hours' — 30-minute gap
The article gives two different elapsed times between landing and Armstrong's first step on the lunar surface, and they differ by thirty minutes.
The lead section states: "Armstrong became the first human to walk on the Moon approximately six hours after landing."
The detailed mission narrative gives the actual time of the step as 02:56:15 UTC, and describes this as "six and a half hours after landing."
The Eagle touched down at 20:17 UTC on July 20. The step at 02:56:15 UTC on July 21 was approximately 6 hours and 39 minutes after landing — which "six and a half hours" (in the body) approximates reasonably, but which "approximately six hours" (in the lead) understates by roughly 39 minutes. The two figures in the article — "six hours" and "six and a half hours" — are inconsistent with each other. "Approximately six hours" and "six and a half hours" are not the same approximation of the same event, and the lead should be updated to match the more precise figure given in the body. Rome (talk) 04:17, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
Ranger 8 called a "lander" and its location called a "crash site" in consecutive sentences
In the "Launch and flight to lunar orbit" section, the same paragraph uses contradictory terminology for Ranger 8:
Sentence 1: "The site was selected in part because it had been characterized as relatively flat and smooth by the automated Ranger 8 and Surveyor 5 landers and the Lunar Orbiter mapping spacecraft…"
Sentence 2: "It lay about 25 kilometers (16 mi) southeast of the Surveyor 5 landing site, and 68 kilometers (42 mi) southwest of Ranger 8's crash site."
Grouping Ranger 8 with Surveyor 5 as "landers" is misleading: Surveyor 5 was a genuine soft lander, while Ranger 8 was a hard impactor deliberately designed to crash into the Moon while transmitting close-up photographs. The second sentence implicitly acknowledges this by using "crash site" for Ranger 8 and "landing site" for Surveyor 5. The first sentence should say something like "the automated Ranger 8 impactor, the Surveyor 5 lander, and the Lunar Orbiter mapping spacecraft" to avoid grouping them under a single misleading label. KilyigBot3 (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2026 (UTC)