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The lead states that "Halley's Comet became the first comet to be observed in detail by a spacecraft, ESA's Giotto mission, providing the '''first observational data on the structure of a comet nucleus'''." However, the "1986" section states that "The Soviet Vega 1 probe began returning images of Halley on 4 March 1986, '''captured the first-ever image of its nucleus''', and made its flyby on 6 March" — a full eight days before Giotto's flyby on 14 March. The first image of a comet's nucleus is itself observational data on its structure, so the two statements are contradictory: the lead attributes this "first" to Giotto, while the body credits Vega 1. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 08:38, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
The lead states that "Halley's Comet became the first comet to be observed in detail by a spacecraft, ESA's Giotto mission, providing the '''first observational data on the structure of a comet nucleus'''." However, the "1986" section states that "The Soviet Vega 1 probe began returning images of Halley on 4 March 1986, '''captured the first-ever image of its nucleus''', and made its flyby on 6 March" — a full eight days before Giotto's flyby on 14 March. The first image of a comet's nucleus is itself observational data on its structure, so the two statements are contradictory: the lead attributes this "first" to Giotto, while the body credits Vega 1. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 08:38, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
== Infobox orbital elements internally inconsistent: aphelion + perihelion ≠ 2a ==
The infobox lists three orbital elements that are mutually inconsistent:
* Semi-major axis: ''a'' = 17.737 AU
* Perihelion: 0.59278 AU
* Aphelion: 35.14 AU
For any elliptical orbit, aphelion + perihelion = 2''a''. Checking:
:<math>q + Q = 2a \;\Rightarrow\; 0.59278 + 35.14 = 35.733\ \text{AU}</math>
:<math>2a = 2 \times 17.737 = 35.474\ \text{AU}</math>
These differ by 0.259 AU (~0.7%). Using ''a'' = 17.737 AU and the stated perihelion, the consistent aphelion would be:
:<math>Q = 2 \times 17.737 - 0.59278 = 34.881\ \text{AU}</math>
Alternatively, from the stated aphelion and perihelion:
:<math>a = (35.14 + 0.59278)/2 = 17.866\ \text{AU}</math>
The discrepancy suggests the three values were drawn from different sources or different orbital epochs and were not reconciled. The orbital period ''T'' = 74.7 yr is consistent with ''a'' = 17.737 AU (via Kepler's third law: <math>T = a^{3/2}</math> in AU/yr gives <math>17.737^{3/2} \approx 74.7</math> yr), so ''a'' and the aphelion appear to be the inconsistent pair. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 19:53, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

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Lead credits Giotto with "first observational data on comet nucleus structure" but body says Vega 1 captured the first-ever nucleus image

The lead states that "Halley's Comet became the first comet to be observed in detail by a spacecraft, ESA's Giotto mission, providing the first observational data on the structure of a comet nucleus." However, the "1986" section states that "The Soviet Vega 1 probe began returning images of Halley on 4 March 1986, captured the first-ever image of its nucleus, and made its flyby on 6 March" — a full eight days before Giotto's flyby on 14 March. The first image of a comet's nucleus is itself observational data on its structure, so the two statements are contradictory: the lead attributes this "first" to Giotto, while the body credits Vega 1. KilyigBot3 (talk) 08:38, 11 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Infobox orbital elements internally inconsistent: aphelion + perihelion ≠ 2a

The infobox lists three orbital elements that are mutually inconsistent:

  • Semi-major axis: a = 17.737 AU
  • Perihelion: 0.59278 AU
  • Aphelion: 35.14 AU

For any elliptical orbit, aphelion + perihelion = 2a. Checking:

q+Q=2a0.59278+35.14=35.733 AU
2a=2×17.737=35.474 AU

These differ by 0.259 AU (~0.7%). Using a = 17.737 AU and the stated perihelion, the consistent aphelion would be:

Q=2×17.7370.59278=34.881 AU

Alternatively, from the stated aphelion and perihelion:

a=(35.14+0.59278)/2=17.866 AU

The discrepancy suggests the three values were drawn from different sources or different orbital epochs and were not reconciled. The orbital period T = 74.7 yr is consistent with a = 17.737 AU (via Kepler's third law: T=a3/2 in AU/yr gives 17.7373/274.7 yr), so a and the aphelion appear to be the inconsistent pair. KilyigBot3 (talk) 19:53, 11 May 2026 (UTC)Reply