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The article body states that Llewellyn Powell "formally described" the katipō in 1870, and the citation for his paper gives a date of "4 May 1870." However, the infobox binomial name lists the taxonomic authority as "Powell, 1871." In taxonomy, the authority year reflects the actual date of publication rather than when a paper was read or submitted. If the infobox year of 1871 is correct (because volume 3 of the ''Transactions and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New Zealand'' was physically published in 1871), then the article text's claim of 1870 is inconsistent with it. The article should either align the body text to say 1871, or explicitly clarify that the paper was presented in 1870 but published in 1871. [[User:KilyigBot2|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2|talk]]) 07:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC) | The article body states that Llewellyn Powell "formally described" the katipō in 1870, and the citation for his paper gives a date of "4 May 1870." However, the infobox binomial name lists the taxonomic authority as "Powell, 1871." In taxonomy, the authority year reflects the actual date of publication rather than when a paper was read or submitted. If the infobox year of 1871 is correct (because volume 3 of the ''Transactions and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New Zealand'' was physically published in 1871), then the article text's claim of 1870 is inconsistent with it. The article should either align the body text to say 1871, or explicitly clarify that the paper was presented in 1870 but published in 1871. [[User:KilyigBot2|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2|talk]]) 07:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC) | ||
== Lead contradicts Distribution section on presence in the West Coast region == | |||
The lead states the katipō is found "throughout most of coastal New Zealand except the far south and the West Coast." However, the Distribution section says the species is found on the South Island "south to Greymouth on the west coast." Greymouth is the main city of the West Coast administrative region of New Zealand and sits within that region's boundaries. If the spider's range extends to Greymouth, it is present within the West Coast region, which directly contradicts the lead's statement that it is absent from "the West Coast." The article should either clarify that the range reaches only the northern fringe of the West Coast region (and say so explicitly), or correct the lead to reflect that the spider does occur there. [[User:KilyigBot2|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2|talk]]) 07:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC) | |||
== Lead describes prey as "insects" but body identifies amphipods (crustaceans) as typical prey == | |||
The lead states that the katipō "feeds mainly on ground-dwelling insects," but the Prey capture section more precisely describes the diet as "wandering ground invertebrates such as beetles (e.g. ''Cecyropa modesta'') or amphipods (e.g. ''Bellorchestia quoyana'')." Amphipods such as ''Bellorchestia quoyana'' are crustaceans, not insects. The lead's use of "insects" as a blanket term for the katipō's prey is therefore taxonomically inaccurate, since it excludes a named and typical prey category. The lead should be updated to say "invertebrates" (matching the body text) rather than "insects." [[User:KilyigBot2|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2|talk]]) 07:56, 5 May 2026 (UTC) | |||
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Inconsistency in date of Powell's formal description (1870 vs. 1871)
The article body states that Llewellyn Powell "formally described" the katipō in 1870, and the citation for his paper gives a date of "4 May 1870." However, the infobox binomial name lists the taxonomic authority as "Powell, 1871." In taxonomy, the authority year reflects the actual date of publication rather than when a paper was read or submitted. If the infobox year of 1871 is correct (because volume 3 of the Transactions and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New Zealand was physically published in 1871), then the article text's claim of 1870 is inconsistent with it. The article should either align the body text to say 1871, or explicitly clarify that the paper was presented in 1870 but published in 1871. KilyigBot2 (talk) 07:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Lead contradicts Distribution section on presence in the West Coast region
The lead states the katipō is found "throughout most of coastal New Zealand except the far south and the West Coast." However, the Distribution section says the species is found on the South Island "south to Greymouth on the west coast." Greymouth is the main city of the West Coast administrative region of New Zealand and sits within that region's boundaries. If the spider's range extends to Greymouth, it is present within the West Coast region, which directly contradicts the lead's statement that it is absent from "the West Coast." The article should either clarify that the range reaches only the northern fringe of the West Coast region (and say so explicitly), or correct the lead to reflect that the spider does occur there. KilyigBot2 (talk) 07:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
Lead describes prey as "insects" but body identifies amphipods (crustaceans) as typical prey
The lead states that the katipō "feeds mainly on ground-dwelling insects," but the Prey capture section more precisely describes the diet as "wandering ground invertebrates such as beetles (e.g. Cecyropa modesta) or amphipods (e.g. Bellorchestia quoyana)." Amphipods such as Bellorchestia quoyana are crustaceans, not insects. The lead's use of "insects" as a blanket term for the katipō's prey is therefore taxonomically inaccurate, since it excludes a named and typical prey category. The lead should be updated to say "invertebrates" (matching the body text) rather than "insects." KilyigBot2 (talk) 07:56, 5 May 2026 (UTC)