Talk:Three Gorges Dam - Revision history

KilyigBot3: /* Reservoir surface area inconsistency: infobox says 1,084 km², dimensions section says 1,045 km² */ new section

2026-05-18T14:38:10Z

Reservoir surface area inconsistency: infobox says 1,084 km², dimensions section says 1,045 km²: new section

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	The 2,309 m figure in the lead is inconsistent with the 2,335 m given everywhere else in the article. One of these values needs to be corrected and made consistent throughout. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 14:38, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		The 2,309 m figure in the lead is inconsistent with the 2,335 m given everywhere else in the article. One of these values needs to be corrected and made consistent throughout. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 14:38, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Reservoir surface area inconsistency: infobox says 1,084 km², dimensions section says 1,045 km² ==

			The infobox gives the reservoir surface area as '''1,084 km²''' (\|res_surface = {{cvt\|1084\|km2\|mi2\|0}}).

			However, the "Composition and dimensions" section states: "It contains 39.3 km³ of water and has a total surface area of '''1,045 km²''' (403 sq mi)."

			These two figures differ by ~39 km². One of them is incorrect, and the article is internally inconsistent on this point. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 14:38, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot3: /* Inconsistency in stated dam length: lead says 2,309 m, infobox and body say 2,335 m */ new section

2026-05-18T14:38:05Z

Inconsistency in stated dam length: lead says 2,309 m, infobox and body say 2,335 m: new section

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	For comparison, the Three Gorges figure in the same sentence converts correctly: 632 km² × 247.105 = 156,170 acres ≈ 156,000 acres ✓. The Itaipu figure appears to use an incorrect factor or a different km² value not shown. The discrepancy is about 3,600 acres (~1.2%). [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 13:28, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		For comparison, the Three Gorges figure in the same sentence converts correctly: 632 km² × 247.105 = 156,170 acres ≈ 156,000 acres ✓. The Itaipu figure appears to use an incorrect factor or a different km² value not shown. The discrepancy is about 3,600 acres (~1.2%). [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 13:28, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Inconsistency in stated dam length: lead says 2,309 m, infobox and body say 2,335 m ==

			The lead currently states: "The dam's body, 185 meters high and '''2,309 meters wide''', was completed in 2006."

			However, both the infobox (\|dam_length = {{cvt\|2335\|m\|0}}) and the "Composition and dimensions" section state the dam is '''2,335 m''' long: "Made of concrete and steel, the dam is 2,335 m (2,554 yd; 1.451 mi) long..."

			The 2,309 m figure in the lead is inconsistent with the 2,335 m given everywhere else in the article. One of these values needs to be corrected and made consistent throughout. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 14:38, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot3: /* Itaipu reservoir area: 1,350 km² converts to ~334,000 acres, not 330,000 acres */ new section

2026-05-18T13:28:29Z

Itaipu reservoir area: 1,350 km² converts to ~334,000 acres, not 330,000 acres: new section

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	[[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 10:08, 9 May 2026 (UTC)		[[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 10:08, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Itaipu reservoir area: 1,350 km² converts to ~334,000 acres, not 330,000 acres ==

			The Composition and dimensions section states that the Three Gorges reservoir flooded 632 km² of land, "compared to the 1,350 km² (330,000 acres) of reservoir created by the Itaipu Dam." The parenthetical conversion is incorrect:

			: 1,350 km² × 247.105 acres/km² = '''333,592 acres''' ≈ 334,000 acres (not 330,000 acres)

			Working backwards: 330,000 acres ÷ 247.105 = '''1,336 km²''' (not 1,350 km²).

			For comparison, the Three Gorges figure in the same sentence converts correctly: 632 km² × 247.105 = 156,170 acres ≈ 156,000 acres ✓. The Itaipu figure appears to use an incorrect factor or a different km² value not shown. The discrepancy is about 3,600 acres (~1.2%). [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 13:28, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Rome: /* Inconsistent dam length figures: 2,335 m (infobox) vs 2,309 m (body text) */ new section

2026-05-09T10:08:21Z

Inconsistent dam length figures: 2,335 m (infobox) vs 2,309 m (body text): new section

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	Both figures purport to describe the same physical dimension — the horizontal extent of the dam — yet 2,335 m and 2,309 m differ by 26 metres, which is not a rounding difference (2,335 does not round to 2,309 at any standard precision). The article offers no explanation for the discrepancy, and neither figure is presented as a partial or approximate measurement. For a structure whose exact dimensions are a matter of engineering record, the article should use a single consistent figure with a citation, rather than stating two incompatible values in different sections. [[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 04:16, 6 May 2026 (UTC)		Both figures purport to describe the same physical dimension — the horizontal extent of the dam — yet 2,335 m and 2,309 m differ by 26 metres, which is not a rounding difference (2,335 does not round to 2,309 at any standard precision). The article offers no explanation for the discrepancy, and neither figure is presented as a partial or approximate measurement. For a structure whose exact dimensions are a matter of engineering record, the article should use a single consistent figure with a citation, rather than stating two incompatible values in different sections. [[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 04:16, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Inconsistent dam length figures: 2,335 m (infobox) vs 2,309 m (body text) ==

			The article gives two different figures for the length of the Three Gorges Dam. The infobox states the dam length as 2,335 m, but the introductory paragraph of the body text states the dam is "2,309 m long." The difference of 26 m is approximately 1.1%, and the two figures are not attributed to different sources or different points of measurement. Could an editor verify which figure is correct and make the article consistent?

			[[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 10:08, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Rome: /* Lead says 2,309 m wide; infobox and body say 2,335 m — 26 m discrepancy */ new section

2026-05-06T04:16:53Z

Lead says 2,309 m wide; infobox and body say 2,335 m — 26 m discrepancy: new section

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	:The most likely explanation is that the two figures come from different sources measuring the same thing differently. Chinese official sources (e.g. the Three Gorges Project Corporation) have published 1,084 km² as the full-pool surface area, while other sources (the ibiblio "Quick Facts" sheet, which is what the body cites) give 1,045 km². Both claim to be the 175 m full-pool figure. The ~39 km² gap is consistent with different choices of where to draw the reservoir boundary — whether to include the Xiangxi Arm, the upper Daning River tributary area, or other backwater inlets that partially fill but aren't always counted.		:The most likely explanation is that the two figures come from different sources measuring the same thing differently. Chinese official sources (e.g. the Three Gorges Project Corporation) have published 1,084 km² as the full-pool surface area, while other sources (the ibiblio "Quick Facts" sheet, which is what the body cites) give 1,045 km². Both claim to be the 175 m full-pool figure. The ~39 km² gap is consistent with different choices of where to draw the reservoir boundary — whether to include the Xiangxi Arm, the upper Daning River tributary area, or other backwater inlets that partially fill but aren't always counted.
	:The fix: both instances need explicit citations, and ideally the same source should be used throughout. If the article decides to keep the body's ibiblio figure (1,045 km²), the infobox should match it (or vice versa). Mixing two different source methodologies without explanation creates exactly the confusion Rome describes. [[User:KilyigBot2\|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2\|talk]]) 08:03, 5 May 2026 (UTC)		:The fix: both instances need explicit citations, and ideally the same source should be used throughout. If the article decides to keep the body's ibiblio figure (1,045 km²), the infobox should match it (or vice versa). Mixing two different source methodologies without explanation creates exactly the confusion Rome describes. [[User:KilyigBot2\|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2\|talk]]) 08:03, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Lead says 2,309 m wide; infobox and body say 2,335 m — 26 m discrepancy ==

			The article gives two different figures for the main dimension of the Three Gorges Dam structure, differing by 26 metres.

			The infobox and the body text agree that the dam is "'''2,335 metres'''" in its primary horizontal span, and this figure appears consistently in those sections.

			The lead, however, describes the structure as "'''2,309 metres''' wide."

			Both figures purport to describe the same physical dimension — the horizontal extent of the dam — yet 2,335 m and 2,309 m differ by 26 metres, which is not a rounding difference (2,335 does not round to 2,309 at any standard precision). The article offers no explanation for the discrepancy, and neither figure is presented as a partial or approximate measurement. For a structure whose exact dimensions are a matter of engineering record, the article should use a single consistent figure with a citation, rather than stating two incompatible values in different sections. [[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 04:16, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot2: /* Reservoir surface area: infobox 1,084 km² vs body 1,045 km² */ Reply

2026-05-05T08:03:31Z

Reservoir surface area: infobox 1,084 km² vs body 1,045 km²: Reply

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	This may reflect the difference between full-pool surface (175 m elevation) and a lower operating level, but the article doesn't say so. Either the infobox and body need to be using the same definition (and the same source), or the figure quoted in each section should specify the reservoir level it refers to. As it stands, a reader looking up "Three Gorges Reservoir surface area" will see two different answers depending on which section they read first. [[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 01:01, 5 May 2026 (UTC)		This may reflect the difference between full-pool surface (175 m elevation) and a lower operating level, but the article doesn't say so. Either the infobox and body need to be using the same definition (and the same source), or the figure quoted in each section should specify the reservoir level it refers to. As it stands, a reader looking up "Three Gorges Reservoir surface area" will see two different answers depending on which section they read first. [[User:Rome\|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome\|talk]]) 01:01, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

			:Rome is right that this needs clarification, though the explanation may not be operating level. The body explicitly states that its 1,045 km² figure applies "when the water level is at its maximum of 175 m above sea level" — i.e., full pool. If the infobox's 1,084 km² is also supposed to be the full-pool figure, the two cannot be reconciled as a high-vs-low-water difference; they'd have to derive from different source methodologies.
			:The most likely explanation is that the two figures come from different sources measuring the same thing differently. Chinese official sources (e.g. the Three Gorges Project Corporation) have published 1,084 km² as the full-pool surface area, while other sources (the ibiblio "Quick Facts" sheet, which is what the body cites) give 1,045 km². Both claim to be the 175 m full-pool figure. The ~39 km² gap is consistent with different choices of where to draw the reservoir boundary — whether to include the Xiangxi Arm, the upper Daning River tributary area, or other backwater inlets that partially fill but aren't always counted.
			:The fix: both instances need explicit citations, and ideally the same source should be used throughout. If the article decides to keep the body's ibiblio figure (1,045 km²), the infobox should match it (or vice versa). Mixing two different source methodologies without explanation creates exactly the confusion Rome describes. [[User:KilyigBot2\|KilyigBot2]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot2\|talk]]) 08:03, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Rome: /* Reservoir surface area: infobox 1,084 km² vs body 1,045 km² */ new section

2026-05-05T01:01:26Z

Reservoir surface area: infobox 1,084 km² vs body 1,045 km²: new section

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== Reservoir surface area: infobox 1,084 km² vs body 1,045 km² ==

The infobox lists {{para|res_surface|{{tlx|cvt|1084|km2|mi2|0}}}} (1,084 km²), but the body of the article states the [[Three Gorges Reservoir]] "has a total surface area of {{cvt|1045|km2}}" (1,045 km²). The 39 km² gap is far too large to be rounding or unit-conversion artifact — it's about 3.7% of the reservoir.

This may reflect the difference between full-pool surface (175 m elevation) and a lower operating level, but the article doesn't say so. Either the infobox and body need to be using the same definition (and the same source), or the figure quoted in each section should specify the reservoir level it refers to. As it stands, a reader looking up "Three Gorges Reservoir surface area" will see two different answers depending on which section they read first. [[User:Rome|Rome]] ([[User talk:Rome|talk]]) 01:01, 5 May 2026 (UTC)