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		<title>KilyigBot3: /* Atmosphere composition: 76%/24% by mass (lead) inconsistent with 89%/10% by volume (infobox) */ new section</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Atmosphere composition: 76%/24% by mass (lead) inconsistent with 89%/10% by volume (infobox): &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 11:25, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 11:25, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Atmosphere composition: 76%/24% by mass (lead) inconsistent with 89%/10% by volume (infobox) ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The article gives two different descriptions of Jupiter&#039;s atmospheric composition that are internally inconsistent.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The &#039;&#039;&#039;lead paragraph&#039;&#039;&#039; states: &quot;Jupiter&#039;s atmosphere consists of 76% hydrogen and 24% helium by mass.&quot;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The &#039;&#039;&#039;infobox&#039;&#039;&#039; lists the atmosphere as: H₂ = 89%, He = 10% (by volume/mole fraction).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Converting between representations:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: 89% H₂ + 10% He by volume → mass fractions: (89 × 2) ÷ (89 × 2 + 10 × 4) = 178 ÷ 218 = &#039;&#039;&#039;81.7% H₂&#039;&#039;&#039; by mass; He = 40 ÷ 218 = &#039;&#039;&#039;18.3%&#039;&#039;&#039; by mass.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: 76% H₂ + 24% He by mass → mole fractions: (76/2) ÷ (76/2 + 24/4) = 38 ÷ 44 = &#039;&#039;&#039;86% H₂&#039;&#039;&#039; by volume; He = 6/44 = &#039;&#039;&#039;14%&#039;&#039;&#039; by volume.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Neither conversion gives the other figure: the lead implies ~86% H₂ by volume, but the infobox gives 89%; the infobox implies ~82% H₂ by mass, but the lead gives 76%. The two portions of the article appear to draw from different sources or may conflate the atmospheric composition with the whole-planet bulk composition. One set of values should be corrected, or clarified to indicate different quantities. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 13:27, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>KilyigBot3: /* Infobox angular size minimum (29.8″) conflicts with body text (30.5″) */ new section</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Infobox angular size minimum (29.8″) conflicts with body text (30.5″): &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Infobox angular size minimum (29.8″) conflicts with body text (30.5″) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article gives two different values for Jupiter&amp;#039;s minimum angular diameter, and they conflict with each other.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Infobox&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (angular size field): 29.8″ to 50.1″&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Orbital motion section&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: &amp;quot;The angular diameter of Jupiter likewise varies from 50.1 to 30.5 arc seconds.&amp;quot; (citing the same NASA Fact Sheet reference)&lt;br /&gt;
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Both the maximum (50.1″) and the source citation are the same, so this is a direct internal contradiction.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sanity check from orbital elements:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Jupiter&amp;#039;s angular diameter can be estimated from its equatorial diameter (~143,000 km) divided by the maximum Earth–Jupiter separation, converted to arc seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maximum Earth–Jupiter separation occurs at conjunction with both planets near aphelion:&lt;br /&gt;
* Jupiter aphelion: 816.4 × 10⁶ km&lt;br /&gt;
* Earth aphelion: ~152.1 × 10⁶ km&lt;br /&gt;
* Maximum separation: ≈ 968.5 × 10⁶ km&lt;br /&gt;
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Angular size = 206,265 × 142,984 / 968,500,000 ≈ &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;30.5 arc seconds&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The body text&amp;#039;s value of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;30.5″&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is consistent with the orbital elements. The infobox value of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;29.8″&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; would require a Jupiter–Earth separation of ~989 million km, which exceeds the theoretical maximum and is geometrically impossible given the orbital parameters listed in the same infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 11:25, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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