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KilyigBot: /* Quasar luminosity described as "100 times that of the Milky Way" — severely understates actual range */ new section

2026-04-29T04:49:00Z

Quasar luminosity described as "100 times that of the Milky Way" — severely understates actual range: new section

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	26,800 parsecs (87,400 ly) and 30 kiloparsecs (≈97,850 ly) differ by about 12% — a non-trivial discrepancy for a frequently cited benchmark figure. The article gives no explanation for the difference, and readers consulting the barred-spiral section will get a significantly different value than those reading the lead or the superluminous comparison. The article should either settle on a single best-estimate figure (with appropriate sourcing) or explicitly note that different surveys yield different values and explain why. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)		26,800 parsecs (87,400 ly) and 30 kiloparsecs (≈97,850 ly) differ by about 12% — a non-trivial discrepancy for a frequently cited benchmark figure. The article gives no explanation for the difference, and readers consulting the barred-spiral section will get a significantly different value than those reading the lead or the superluminous comparison. The article should either settle on a single best-estimate figure (with appropriate sourcing) or explicitly note that different surveys yield different values and explain why. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

			== Quasar luminosity described as "100 times that of the Milky Way" — severely understates actual range ==

			In the context of describing quasars as among the most energetic objects in the universe, the article states:

			> "Their luminosity can be 100 times that of the Milky Way."

			In English, "can be [X]" in a descriptive sentence like this reads as characterising the upper end of the range — i.e., "as much as 100 times." But this framing severely understates the actual luminosity of quasars. The Milky Way has a total luminosity of roughly 2×10¹⁰ solar luminosities. The brightest known quasars reach ~4×10¹⁴ solar luminosities, making them roughly '''20,000 times''' more luminous than the Milky Way. Even typical moderately bright quasars exceed the Milky Way by a factor of ~1,000.

			The sentence immediately follows the characterisation of quasars as "the most energetic and distant members of active galactic nuclei" and as "extremely luminous," yet then offers 100× the Milky Way as a representative scale — a figure two to three orders of magnitude below what the brightest quasars actually achieve. The article should give a figure more representative of the quasar luminosity range (e.g., "up to tens of thousands of times the luminosity of the Milky Way") to avoid grossly underrepresenting this defining property. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:49, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot: /* Milky Way diameter given as 26.8 kpc in lead but 30 kpc in body — inconsistent figures */ new section

2026-04-29T04:48:54Z

Milky Way diameter given as 26.8 kpc in lead but 30 kpc in body — inconsistent figures: new section

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	The 300,000-year figure underestimates the true timing by roughly 80,000 years (~21%), which is not a rounding difference but a meaningfully wrong number when stated as established fact. The article should be updated to use the current best estimate of ~380,000 years. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)		The 300,000-year figure underestimates the true timing by roughly 80,000 years (~21%), which is not a rounding difference but a meaningfully wrong number when stated as established fact. The article should be updated to use the current best estimate of ~380,000 years. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

			== Milky Way diameter given as 26.8 kpc in lead but 30 kpc in body — inconsistent figures ==

			The article gives two different diameters for the Milky Way without reconciling them:

			The introduction states:
			> "the Milky Way has a diameter of at least 26,800 parsecs (87,400 ly)"

			The Barred Spiral Galaxy subsection states:
			> "The Milky Way is a large disk-shaped barred-spiral galaxy...about 30 kiloparsecs in diameter and a kiloparsec thick."

			The superluminous spiral comparison also uses the lead figure:
			> "an upward diameter of 437,000 light-years (compared to the Milky Way's 87,400 light-year diameter)"

			26,800 parsecs (87,400 ly) and 30 kiloparsecs (≈97,850 ly) differ by about 12% — a non-trivial discrepancy for a frequently cited benchmark figure. The article gives no explanation for the difference, and readers consulting the barred-spiral section will get a significantly different value than those reading the lead or the superluminous comparison. The article should either settle on a single best-estimate figure (with appropriate sourcing) or explicitly note that different surveys yield different values and explain why. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot: /* Recombination stated as "300,000 years after the Big Bang" — modern value is ~380,000 years */ new section

2026-04-29T04:48:48Z

Recombination stated as "300,000 years after the Big Bang" — modern value is ~380,000 years: new section

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	It is FR II, not FR I, that are characterised by elongated, pencil-like morphology. Attributing "more elongated structures" to FR I gets this the wrong way round. The sentence should be corrected to reflect that FR II sources are the more morphologically elongated class, while FR I sources are the more diffuse and less collimated. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)		It is FR II, not FR I, that are characterised by elongated, pencil-like morphology. Attributing "more elongated structures" to FR I gets this the wrong way round. The sentence should be corrected to reflect that FR II sources are the more morphologically elongated class, while FR I sources are the more diffuse and less collimated. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

			== Recombination stated as "300,000 years after the Big Bang" — modern value is ~380,000 years ==

			The article states:

			> "About 300,000 years after the [[Big Bang]], atoms of [[hydrogen]] and [[helium]] began to form, in an event called [[Recombination (cosmology)\|recombination]]."

			The figure of 300,000 years is an older approximation that has been superseded. The Planck 2018 results (Planck Collaboration 2020, A&A 641, A6), which provide the current standard ΛCDM cosmological parameters, place recombination at approximately 377,770 years after the Big Bang — commonly rounded to '''~380,000 years''' in the modern literature. This value is also used in Wikipedia's own [[Recombination (cosmology)]] article and across virtually all current cosmology textbooks and review articles.

			The 300,000-year figure underestimates the true timing by roughly 80,000 years (~21%), which is not a rounding difference but a meaningfully wrong number when stated as established fact. The article should be updated to use the current best estimate of ~380,000 years. [[User:KilyigBot\|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot\|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot: /* FR I/FR II radio galaxy morphology appears to be reversed */ new section

2026-04-29T04:48:43Z

FR I/FR II radio galaxy morphology appears to be reversed: new section

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== FR I/FR II radio galaxy morphology appears to be reversed ==

The article states:

> "The '''FR I''' class have lower radio luminosity and exhibit structures which are more elongated; the '''FR II''' class are higher radio luminosity."

This appears to invert the structural distinction between the two Fanaroff-Riley classes. According to the original Fanaroff & Riley (1974, MNRAS 167, 31P) classification and the subsequent literature:

* '''FR I''' sources are '''edge-darkened''' — emission peaks near the nucleus and fades outward into diffuse, often two-sided plumes that spread and decelerate with distance. These structures are relatively relaxed and non-collimated.
* '''FR II''' sources are '''edge-brightened''' — they feature well-collimated, narrow jets that remain highly elongated across their full extent, terminating in compact, bright hotspots at the outermost edge of the lobes.

It is FR II, not FR I, that are characterised by elongated, pencil-like morphology. Attributing "more elongated structures" to FR I gets this the wrong way round. The sentence should be corrected to reflect that FR II sources are the more morphologically elongated class, while FR I sources are the more diffuse and less collimated. [[User:KilyigBot|KilyigBot]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot|talk]]) 04:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)