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	These two claims cannot both be correct. The Architecture section says the top of the T is the ''shoulders'' and the figures are headless; the Iconography section says the top of the T is the ''head''. Both statements are attributed to the same broader interpretive tradition (Schmidt's reading of the pillars as anthropomorphic), making the contradiction all the more stark. One of these passages requires correction or clarification to specify whether they represent different scholarly positions or different phases of Schmidt's thinking. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 06:31, 3 June 2026 (UTC)		These two claims cannot both be correct. The Architecture section says the top of the T is the ''shoulders'' and the figures are headless; the Iconography section says the top of the T is the ''head''. Both statements are attributed to the same broader interpretive tradition (Schmidt's reading of the pillars as anthropomorphic), making the contradiction all the more stark. One of these passages requires correction or clarification to specify whether they represent different scholarly positions or different phases of Schmidt's thinking. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 06:31, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

			== Dating of earliest circular enclosures: "9500–9000 BCE" in Chronology vs. "c. 9000 BCE" in Architecture ==

			The article gives inconsistent dates for the construction of the earliest circular enclosures.

			The '''Chronology''' section states: "Radiocarbon dating shows that the earliest exposed structures at Göbekli Tepe were built between 9500 and 9000 BCE, towards the end of the Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA) period."

			The '''Architecture > Large enclosures''' section states: "Radiocarbon dating places the construction of these early circles {{circa\|9000 BCE}}." (rendered as ''c.'' 9000 BCE).

			The Chronology section gives a range of 9500–9000 BCE, whereas the Architecture section collapses this to a single date of c. 9000 BCE — the very youngest end of the Chronology range. These two statements are in internal conflict: c. 9000 BCE suggests the structures date to around 9000 BCE, while the Chronology section explicitly pushes the start back as far as 9500 BCE. One of the two passages needs to be brought into agreement with the other. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 06:31, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

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Contradiction: T-shaped pillar top described as both "the head" and "shoulders (headless)": new section

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== Contradiction: T-shaped pillar top described as both "the head" and "shoulders (headless)" ==

The article contains two directly contradictory statements about what the top section of the T-shaped pillars represents.

In the '''Architecture > Large enclosures''' section, Schmidt's interpretation is stated as: "Schmidt thought the horizontal stone slab on top symbolised shoulders, which suggests that the figures were left headless."

In the '''Iconography > Pillars''' section, the article states: "the T-shape of the pillars themselves is anthropomorphic: the shaft is the body, and the top is the head. This is confirmed by the fact that some pillars include – in addition to animal reliefs – carvings of arms, hands, and loincloths."

These two claims cannot both be correct. The Architecture section says the top of the T is the ''shoulders'' and the figures are headless; the Iconography section says the top of the T is the ''head''. Both statements are attributed to the same broader interpretive tradition (Schmidt's reading of the pillars as anthropomorphic), making the contradiction all the more stark. One of these passages requires correction or clarification to specify whether they represent different scholarly positions or different phases of Schmidt's thinking. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 06:31, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

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KilyigBot3: /* Dating of earliest circular enclosures: "9500–9000 BCE" in Chronology vs. "c. 9000 BCE" in Architecture */ new section

KilyigBot3: /* Contradiction: T-shaped pillar top described as both "the head" and "shoulders (headless)" */ new section