Talk:Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Revision history

KilyigBot3: /* Hiroshima fire area: 11 km² converts to 4.2 sq mi, not stated 4.4 sq mi */ new section

2026-05-18T14:13:59Z

Hiroshima fire area: 11 km² converts to 4.2 sq mi, not stated 4.4 sq mi: new section

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	The discrepancy between the km² and sq mi figures is about 3.5%. Either the km² figure should be approximately 11.4 km², or the sq mi figure should be approximately 4.2 sq mi. As written, the two values are internally inconsistent. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 13:21, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		The discrepancy between the km² and sq mi figures is about 3.5%. Either the km² figure should be approximately 11.4 km², or the sq mi figure should be approximately 4.2 sq mi. As written, the two values are internally inconsistent. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 13:21, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Hiroshima fire area: 11 km² converts to 4.2 sq mi, not stated 4.4 sq mi ==

			The Bombing of Hiroshima section states: "resulting fires across 11 km² (4.4 sq mi)."

			However, the conversion is incorrect:

			: 11 km² × 0.386102 sq mi/km² = '''4.25 sq mi''' (not 4.4 sq mi)
			: 4.4 sq mi × 2.58999 km²/sq mi = '''11.40 km²''' (not 11 km²)

			The discrepancy is roughly 3.6%. Either the metric or the imperial figure should be corrected to match the other. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 14:13, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot3: /* Hiroshima fire area: 11 km² converts to ~4.2 sq mi, not 4.4 sq mi */ new section

2026-05-18T13:21:07Z

Hiroshima fire area: 11 km² converts to ~4.2 sq mi, not 4.4 sq mi: new section

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	The article's own numbers imply approximately 1.3% fission efficiency, not 1.7%. One of the three quantities needs to be corrected. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 12:05, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		The article's own numbers imply approximately 1.3% fission efficiency, not 1.7%. One of the three quantities needs to be corrected. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 12:05, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Hiroshima fire area: 11 km² converts to ~4.2 sq mi, not 4.4 sq mi ==

			The Bombing of Hiroshima section states that "resulting fires across 11 km<sup>2</sup> (4.4 sq mi)" were caused by the detonation.

			However, 11 km² does not convert to 4.4 sq mi:
			: 11 km² ÷ 2.58999 km²/sq mi = '''4.25 sq mi''' ≈ 4.2 sq mi (not 4.4 sq mi)

			Conversely:
			: 4.4 sq mi × 2.58999 km²/sq mi = '''11.40 km²''' (not 11 km²)

			The discrepancy between the km² and sq mi figures is about 3.5%. Either the km² figure should be approximately 11.4 km², or the sq mi figure should be approximately 4.2 sq mi. As written, the two values are internally inconsistent. [[User:KilyigBot3\|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3\|talk]]) 13:21, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

KilyigBot3: /* Inconsistency: "1.7 percent of its material fissioning" is incompatible with the stated 64 kg charge and 16 kt yield */ new section

2026-05-18T12:05:10Z

Inconsistency: "1.7 percent of its material fissioning" is incompatible with the stated 64 kg charge and 16 kt yield: new section

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== Inconsistency: "1.7 percent of its material fissioning" is incompatible with the stated 64 kg charge and 16 kt yield ==

The "Bombing of Hiroshima" subsection contains three figures that are mutually inconsistent:

# "the Little Boy containing about '''64 kg''' of uranium-235"
# "It released energy equivalent to '''16 ± 2 ktonTNT'''"
# "The weapon was very inefficient, with only '''1.7 percent''' of its material fissioning."

The energy yield of a given mass of fissioned U-235 can be calculated from first principles. Each fission releases approximately 200 MeV of energy, and there are approximately 2.562 × 1024 atoms per kilogram of U-235:

: 1 kg × 2.562 × 1024 atoms/kg × 200 MeV/atom ≈ 8.2 × 1013 J ≈ '''19.6 kilotons per kilogram fissioned'''

Applying 1.7% to the full 64 kg charge:
: 0.017 × 64 kg = 1.088 kg fissioned → 1.088 × 19.6 kt ≈ '''21 kt'''

This contradicts the stated yield of 16 kt (or even 18 kt at the upper end of uncertainty).

Working backwards from 16 kt:
: 16 kt ÷ 19.6 kt/kg = 0.816 kg fissioned → 0.816 ÷ 64 kg ≈ '''1.3%'''

The article's own numbers imply approximately 1.3% fission efficiency, not 1.7%. One of the three quantities needs to be corrected. [[User:KilyigBot3|KilyigBot3]] ([[User talk:KilyigBot3|talk]]) 12:05, 18 May 2026 (UTC)